Like most things, this was easier with our son. The culture has not, as yet, made it the norm to dress boys in revealing, provocative clothing. If I could keep the kid clean and reasonably well-matched, I called it a job well done.
My poor daughter has been struggling for the last three years to find cool but modest clothing to wear in the shops, however. She has a natural reticence about showing off her body (this is a good thing in pre-teens), but she enjoys being hip and up to date. (Sheesh, I’m sure showing my age with THAT slang, aren’t I?) As her mother, I have an interest in keeping her dressed (to my mind) appropriately. Which means, not provocatively or suggestively. Just for the record, her father has stayed out of the whole issue as long as she doesn’t look like a street person.
She has now graduated to the Miss and Junior sizes, and hoo-boy! Just TRY finding something in those sizes that doesn’t look like pole-dancing wear! So I have been doing some thinking about how to define what is appropriate for her, and how to teach her good body sense in the face of cultural messages to the contrary. It became clear to me, on reflection, that her standing as the minister’s daughter does factor in here.
As liberal UUs, we don’t have a lot of pressure to impose a modesty code on our young people — although sometimes I wish we did… (Did I say that out loud?) I mean, you aren’t going to see a lot of these at the UU church year-end outing. But there is no doubt in my mind that people will see my daughter’s dress and behavior as a reflection on her father, and I do pay attention to that. I don’t know, maybe I am wrong that people care. But I don’t think so.
For what it is worth, then, here is my working list of “there is no WAY you are going out of the house in that”:
1. Clothing that does not meet in the middle, including when the hands are raised over the head
2. Clothing that does not pass the “bend” test. If I see more than I want to see of your back end or underwear when you bend over, put on a belt or get a different size.
3. Clothing that creates a cleavage on a young teen.
4. Sexy or offensive slogans on any article of clothing.
5. Anything with writing on the posterior (who thought THAT was a good idea?)
6. Anything with visible brand markings (that’s just my refusal to do free marketing)
7. Anything that looks like underwear or pajamas.
8. If Jenna Jameson would wear it, my young teen daughter won’t.
At the moment, my daughter and I are on the same page with this stuff. Wonder how long that will last…
The next big challenge is coming right around the bend of course — dating. There is no question but that my daughter is going to be a major boy magnet (insert sound of mother slapping forehead here). And which boys will she meet the most? You got it. The sons of my husband’s congregants.
We ducked the bullet on this one with our son since there were not a lot of young ladies of the right age in the congregation my husband served at the time, and none that my son was interested in. Whew!
So, just pondering this issue at this point, and frankly hoping that she falls madly in love with the son of the local rabbi…
June 4, 2007 at 9:57 pm
“Anything with writing on the posterior (who thought THAT was a good idea?)”
What a hoot! Like girls really need to have anything written on their rear ends to get boys/men to look at them?
Good luck with this.
June 4, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Ever get the feeling that clothing for young women is designed by a bunch of dirty old men? This is their fantasy come true… When I think about what MY mother had angina over in 1970 — I should BE so lucky!
June 4, 2007 at 11:35 pm
I’m saving your “Rules.” They sound like good ones to me. (Egad, THREE daughters …)
June 4, 2007 at 11:38 pm
And who knows what they will think up next?! (((Shudder)))
June 5, 2007 at 1:08 am
I’m feeling extra glad right now that my daughters will both be out of high school and by the time I’m ordained. My tactic with the girls was always to ask “what kind of message do you want to be sending?” I was also willing to be somewhat flexible – I also dislike pants/shorts with writing on the behind, but allowed it on the swim team sweatpants the whole team wore.
June 5, 2007 at 3:06 pm
My girlfriend Holden, who is in her mid-twenties, still fits Juniors sizes. Women’s clothes simply don’t fit her, and God forbid she try Petites. Not happening. But Juniors clothes–good gracious me. Not things she can wear to the office. Even the ones that aren’t flat-out sexy always have sparkly buttons, or shiny thread running through, or sequins in odd places. What is up with that?
Of course, I’ve always been very irritated with plus-size clothing due to the Cat Sweater Effect. It’s gotten better recently, but when I was looking for a prom dress, everything in my size was meant for the mother of the bride. Sequined jackets over knee-length skirts, heavens preserve us.
June 5, 2007 at 6:44 pm
I’m surprised that your husband doesn’t want to get more involved. As a guy I’m sure he’d have quite the perspective– but since you seem to have such a great set of rules, I can see why he doesn’t have to worry!
June 5, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Actually, I think he figures his involvement is adequate at the point where he draws the line at homeless grunge, frankly!